3ds max: Select ID doesn't work

Anyone know why Select ID wouldn't work?
Cause this has happened in the past five things I've made, and it's ridiculously annoying.

Are you using 3dsmax?

Yeap

Oh, well thats the problem

I... see.

Im jus hatin, ignore me

Ah, alright. Yeah, I really need to switch to Blender.

I just saw some movie made from open source apps
Not too bad

I actually do all my actual model making in Milkshape
Then import and tweak

Oh jesus christ milkshape
Lol

Haha, It's simple.

Simply horrible
Http://www.elephantsdream.org/
I think they mainly used blender in this
Max is good but, i don't use it so i can't help ya

That's neat.

Haha
Lol
People still use milkshape?

I don't make very complicated stuff, Heh.
It's all stationary.
Still, I'd like to know how to apply materials. I'm obviously doing something horribly wrong.

You should be able to select the face or object and drag the material or something

Drag?
I'll try that.

Or, there should be an icon near the top that says assign material to object
Try that

Yeah, I do that, and it auto assigns ID 2
It's weird.

Did you click the id number you want to use?

Ayep, even when I use the little "Select ID" box and switch it to 5, it auto sets it back to 2
Very odd.

Well, select ID is just that...you would select all the 5 ID and change nothing
Try the one above it

Under Face --> Material?
Yeah, that seems to not effect it at all.
It just goes blank.

Try polygon

Still no luck

Use SET ID with the face selected

Right now, it's set to 5
I think there may be a problem with the material.

Using a multi/subobject material?

I believe so.
I'm using an avatar template for proper alignment, and using the Mat set that came with it.

I believe so.
I'm using an avatar template for proper alignment, and using the Mat set that came with it.

Ahhhh your UVWs are probably messed

Nah, I set the UVW map for the hair myself.
It works with the Set ID 2 that seems to take over everything, but not 5, which is the correct hair mat

Because that ID is probably whats mapped

And it has to be 5 to work :/
Now, what's the Box below the Set/Select ID portion?

Smoothing groups

Above that
Below Select ID, above the "Clear Selection" check box

Not sure
Normals I think

Humm
Normals?

Probably need to add an editmesh modifier and select the polys there and add the uvw on that

The Material Set ID 2 is working
It just isn't the right ID
And for some reason, it's reverting to that.
Alright, What I'm noticing in my textures that work
Is that underneath Select ID is a box that says No Name - (5)
But I have no clue how to trigger this.
Anyone happen to know even in the slightest what I'm talkin' about?
Also, is there any way to... attach faces to the back of faces?

I'd go at it this way, duplicate the object (or just the face you want to "duplicate"), flip it, atach it again

Well, It's a cylinder
That I want to make into a bit of a donut.
Basically, I have an outer shell of hair, but when you look at it from the wrong angles, and see the interior, it's just black.

Ah got you
Hm
Are you sure you want to atach the "new" face right to the back of the other one?
That would give it like a "half-tube" look?

Well, Full tube
I think, but yeah
I just want the texture to be on both sides of the face.

Well a face is not two sided
There is no such thing as a true solid in 3d studio

Right, is there any way to convert it?

A box for example consists of 6 faces
Turned outwards
Wich gives it a box look
Well it's not about converting it as much as making a set of faces
Turned the opposite way

So I basically need to remake the whole thing?

I have an idea involving duplicating it and converting it to mesh/poly then select all and use "flip normals" or somehting like that
You need to select all the polys you want visible from both directions
(select the object, and then "submode"-polygon)
Afther this you need to use detach on those polys
Then duplicate the object you create with detach
Select the new object
Select all polys
And then use "flip"
(found a bit down in the menu with options for editing it)
This will make it visible from the other way
Now you need to select the first object
Then go into "submode"-poly, use attach to attach the second and the first object you detached

I have an idea involving duplicating it and converting it to mesh/poly then select all and use "flip normals" or somehting like that
You need to select all the polys you want visible from both directions
(select the object, and then "submode"-polygon)
Afther this you need to use detach on those polys
Then duplicate the object you create with detach
Select the new object
Select all polys
And then use "flip"
(found a bit down in the menu with options for editing it)
This will make it visible from the other way
Now you need to select the first object
Then go into "submode"-poly, use attach to attach the second and the first object you detached

Duplicate = Clone?

Yeah

But as copy
Not instance
This might screw up your'e smoothing groups
Not sure about that part

I don't think I have any

Hehe well then it won't matter
But for further use this may be a stupid technique, not sure if I did everything the easiest/smartest way

I won't be doing this again, I'll make sure it has a back next time

Hehe

Where's flip?

It's found under "surface properties"

Thanks for your help with this *Laughs* I never woulda got that.
Now I just have to fight through getting the textures on again.

Hehe np, so it did work out?

Yep, Perfectly

Sweet